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Message: [QUOTE="brandonnj, post: 1219405, member: 46320"] TBH, I believe most really good players avoid the suckouts by not going all in on the flop and play smallball poker, your hand is usually only full proof on the river and a lot of good players make tough laydowns knowing there can be a bad card on the turn or river. Im mostly talking of tournaments which is more about survival rather then flopping a set and going all in to make the biggest stack possible or trying to get someone off a draw, if anything bet til river and see what happens. Its what I try to do most times, but sometimes you do need to just need to ship on the flop and hope they dont catch. [/QUOTE]