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Message: [QUOTE="jsnake716, post: 4047433, member: 221827"] Wow!! First, Let me say I am not a member of Upswing lab, If I was going to try and make a living just from poker I would definitely be a member of some poker site. Why?? Because, I believe the best way to improve and the quickest way to improve is to be able to discuss your play with people who are better and playing higher limits than you are right now. All the kids who made it to the top, either cash games or tournaments, will say the way they learned the most and the fastest is because they hung out together and talked poker for hours. I think a training site can give you a group of people to learn with and from. I believe that Upswing's principles are sound, the O.P. talked as if he had a personal course with Doug?? Upswing is not even set-up that way, Ryan Fee creates just as much content as Doug has. Both Ryan and Doug are definitely winning players at high stakes. even though people love to hate Doug. Tonka has joined the team and is giving some content for tournament play, Jnandez is handling the PLO stuff. It is a business with very good poker players. If you think you are going to pay for 6 months membership and PRESTO you will be a winner, do not join. Poker does not work that way. Geez, Upswing should pay me for this. HaHa, actually I belong to a couple of free sites where guys discuss hands and I post hands here as well. That is how I think I have improved! Much more work needs to be done. I wonder if the O.P. uses equilab or pokerstove?? How much work does he do off the tables. Much easier to say Doug sucks or Phil sucks (Galfond) has a training site also. Poker is a much more difficult game now, because of the free content and the training sites. If you think you want to become a winning player, be prepared to improve, that's all for now [/QUOTE]

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