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Message: [QUOTE="starfall, post: 390684, member: 7551"] Satellites make a lot of sense if you're good enough to pretty frequently end in the top 10 rankings, but not experienced enough in late tournament play to generally make the final table - for 1/10th of the entry fee you can have probably at least 1/4 chance of getting the tournament entry, so it's a cheap way to get entry. If you generally bust out of the MTTs fairly early on in the money, then it makes those placings a lot more profitable... I voted for folding the pocket aces... the way to look at it in this specific situation is that you stand a better chance of getting the place sitting tight than playing aces, so you dump the aces... In a normal tournament, this would very rarely be a good play. Exceptions would be if the amount of money involved for placing is significant compared to your bankroll, or of greater importance to you. Examples - you've used the last of the money in your account, so you NEED a money placing, and a big win would be nice, but any win is a LOT more important, then you may consider folding when you're right up to the bubble. Alternatively, if you've played satellites or freerolls to get your entry, then the initial payouts may be relatively significant compared to your entry stake, and this may make ensuring a payout very tempting. Freerolls at a site where you don't have a stake, and just want some kind of starting stake are another example where you may want to fold Aces. Basically, the point I'm trying to make is that sometimes winning, say, 10K is not 10 times better than winning 1K for that person - the 1K may be relatively important to the person, while the remaining 9K is just nice to have. Another example I can think of is in a very small payout structure, it may make some sense - e.g. at some recent televised events, where the prizes at the final table were much better than even 1 place off the final table. A final example is where you can expect the other players to agree a favourable chop between a certain group (like a final table), again raising the reward for just staying in compared to placing first. Apart from the satellites, there's plenty of argument for saying that folding Aces specifically is a weak play, but there can be good reasons for making a play that's not mathematically the optimum one. [/QUOTE]

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