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Message: [QUOTE="Marginal, post: 4221577, member: 63072"] Yea I mean i disagree fully with what you say because its very naive and shows you really don't understand how poker and in the industry works. I'll try to explain to you. 1) To your point about it being degenerate gamblers by staking. I do not play much poker anymore as I just do not really like to play as often unless the stakes are extremely high or worth my time however as someone who has played poker for a very long time and has been active within various poker communities, I have realised that there are a lot of profitable players out there who can make a lot of money when given the right opportunity. In my time doing this I've come to realise that someone not having the money to play games that they can beat isn't always because they are bad at the game but in most cases because they are risk adverse or have other life commitments that do not allow them to risk their own money. Hence people like myself come in and provide them with that financial backing. In most cases they make money, in some cases they don't and in few cases they scam. Overall if you look at choosing the most profitable players available to you, you will find a way to make money out of this and it is enjoyable to share in other people's success. It is no different than making alternative investment choices. 2) Trusting someone without knowing their name or not meeting them makes someone an idiot. I knew this guys real name and I knew what he looked like but guess what regardless of if I knew him in person or not, knowing a name vs a screenname does not make much of a difference. A name does not mean anything. You invest in people based on their reputation and actions and whether you think they are profitable or not. Pokernuts01, for better of worst, was a long standing member here, had other stakes go through which ended reasonably well (in hindsight this isnt correct but hindsight is 20/20) and more importantly to me, he showed some very profitable results. 3) The comment about being a loyaler. At any given time there are only 100 loyalers on the site. In terms of this forum, it means something and while you might not know the person directly, the fact they made it that far into the community means that the long standing members here actually do know them. Random people do not just make it into that place, it takes time and being a part of the forum. Sure we get bad ones from time to time but the bunch is a very good core and even if I didnt know the person I would feel a lot safer transacting with a loyaler than I would other random people. 4) Yes he can go about creating new screennames etc but regardless of that (which by the way gets difficult on poker sites, you go ahead and log in from the same IP address on pokerstars and create an account with your name or your spouses name and see what they tell you when you try to withdraw) it is important to get the current ones named and out there for being scams. In addition to this post on CC, I will make a cross post on other forums so that they can recognise his screennames and what he has done as well. If he goes through the trouble to recreate himself sure let him do it but all the accounts he used on poker sites and all the graphs he shared were graphs and accounts that existed for 5-10 years. It is very hard to show up as a new account and get staked off the back of a 6 month graph. Just because he can change it doesnt mean we just let him go unchecked. Now with the rational explanations done. I am going to say something else. Do not come into my thread, telling me that I am a idiot when this is what I do. Ive made a ton of money through stakes and in a lot of cases I didnt know much about the people at all and yea sometimes it doesnt work out and they are cheats but it happens. So don't judge me and make a post like that, you can go take your 5 dollar ass to somewhere else but i wont tolerate that shit here. Go play a freeroll somewhere and complain about getting some bad beat for 10cents instead of taking this line with me. You arent being provocative with your opinion, just plain stupid. [/QUOTE]

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