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Message: [QUOTE="quick, post: 6489244, member: 133269"] As GTO based theory and strategy becomes more and more prominent is there room in the game for "feel" and "gut" based players anymore? I think there is because as newer players come into the game these days they , perhaps not knowing any better, jump into advanced theory, charts, and strategy and because they may lack the "feel" of the game may play a rigid style. See many of these players on forums baffled their 5.892% bluffing strategy on X board texture with Y position didn't work. Or players who jam a turn or river representing something they don't have because a chart or a solver said it's the best move in that spot...and I happily call realizing what they were trying to do. Or the players who bet too small for "value" with a weak holding and surprised they get called by a slightly less weak holding...to me says they aren't understanding the theory and advanced strategies , only following without thinking through further. And no dig on those using a more math based game, but the beauty of poker is if you understand the math, the odds, and the likely play the other player is making, you can have a feel for the next move, the next play you want to make. Optimal plays exist and we should strive to make the best plays we can in each spot, but we're not robots and if a good "feel" player sees what your'e doing, they can and do exploit that. The feel players can remain a bit more unpredictable. Frankly I think it's a lost art in modern poker, although would say it's mostly more valuable to "feel" in tourneys than cash games which are closer to being solved. I watch many pros from the "old" days still doing well and I think it's because they have both the feel understanding and a solid grasp on what newer players are focused on. Perhaps , since I mainly play tournaments online and cash live, the "feel" approach makes more sense. A solid foundation built is needed but after that , there 's still plenty of benefit for having a feel for the flow of the game you're in, the moves opponents are making, and the chosen response. What do you think? [/QUOTE]

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