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FINE LINE between cheating and an edge
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[QUOTE="punctual, post: 2340098, member: 105248"] So I read an article recently about Phil Ivey suing a casino for not paying him millions of dollars he won at bacarat. Ivey admits that the back of the cards he was dealt were worn in such a way that he could tell when to bet and when not to bet. So using this information, he pulled many million dollars out of that game.... Ivey never touched the cards himself and so he did not "wear" the cards on his own....he just noticed something that gave him an edge in the game and used that information to his advantage... Who thinks this is wrong? I personally do not. As a professional gambler, you try to use any edge you can get. If the casino is not careful about the cards it uses for million dollar pot games it offers, is that the gambler's fault? On the flip side, if a gambler happens to be drunk and losing a lot of money making bad drunk decisions, will the casino then reimburse the gambler? In that case, is not the casino using edge against the gambler? So i think the court should award Ivey the money he is owed. If they can't be meticulous about how they offer a game of such high stakes, then the casino deserves to lose their money. In the same sense, if you are a drunk and as a result lose all your money in the casino, you shouldnt' have the right to get your money back because you were drunk. At least that's how I see it... [/QUOTE]
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