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Message: [QUOTE="zachvac, post: 875669, member: 26306"] This is bad logic, and something I had a lot of trouble with moving up. I'd be floating all over the place, 3-bet bluffing postflop, etc. Now granted I play FR where it's a bit less aggressive in general than 6max, but 58 is just not a hand you want to be flatting in this situation. Too many better players will double barrel you, and if you start doing this too consistently they may even start check-raising the flop. OK I'll go over what my thoughts are on the hands: 1. Horrible preflop imo, raise it up or at least fold to a raise that will put you oop. But if you have some need to limp-call 58 suited oop, this is definitely not the spot/flop for a move. You're oop and will not be able to control the pot size, you'll be at an extreme disadvantage, especially if he is relatively aggressive, and you have complete shit. The only move I like here on the flop is the check-raise, but even that I think is just spewy. Fold preflop, but if you're not going to that, fold it postflop. You want to make 99% of your moves in position, and most with decent equity. All you've got is backdoor flush, straight, and 2 pair draws. 2. AT oop is a pretty easy fold preflop imo, but after calling here this is definitely the one spot where oop I think a check-raise is a decent move. He's got air a good amount of the time, there are a ton of scary turn cards you can double barrel, and it's pretty unlikely he hit anything. So postflop I do like a check-raise a decent amount of the time, but again, playing AT oop is overall pretty much going to be a losing play. 3. Light 3-bets are fine, but first off this guy's UTG and unless you think he's an absolute maniac he's probably raising a bit tighter UTG. Second off your hand is terrible, you literally are only playing on getting him to fold. If you had a hand like 56s or 55 I would like a light 3-bet a lot more. But he's UTG, you'll be oop postflop, and you have total trash. Light 3-betting these guys is fine, but pick a better spot. [/QUOTE]

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