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Message: [QUOTE="A2345Razz, post: 2655601, member: 90717"] I have formed this view in the last say 5 yrs that we've collectively sold the dream of being a pro/profitable as a player early in your career way, WAY too much to the public. Here is why: 1) It's much MUCH less likely to happen in 2015 as it was in 2005...there chances of picking up the game and being able to support yourself as an adult living independently within say 24 months is very remote in 1st world contexts. 2) We shouldn't define "success" in poker as being profitable or a pro. Poker is a game and an hobby, and if you enjoy it responsibly and draw joy from it, than you are successful as a player, period. At the same time it is intellectual exercise and helps the mind develop and at the least stay better longer into our life. 3) It's important for beginners to actually DEPOSIT A DECENT amount of money generally for us to maintain this game. The poker world needs net depositors period to survive. Why is it a lot of new players are so afraid/reluctant to deposit say 200-500 dollar in their first 24 months? THIS IS A HOBBY, and there are costs related to all/most hobbies. 5) We need to stop selling poker as a moneymaking venture period bc when we do we look like hucksters and and liars to lay people. Poker is a game, a gambling game where the net profit/loss is a loss for all players based on rake. Stop talking about how people are supporting themselves on poker; it is very very few mainly younger people and many of them would be better of getting into their careers and not opening multi yr holes on their CVs. I am sorry, but someone needed to say it... [/QUOTE]

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