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Message: [QUOTE="Gary_Heart, post: 2659149, member: 106922"] A2345Razz, I'm attempting to get your drift correct - you say: The every day players need to be depositing. AND New players shouldn't EXPECT to build a roll and skills from freerolls alone. OK got that - but the thing that I'm not 'buying into' is when you say ... "We need to tell people over and over again that depositing is a normal and healthy part of starting out in poker and learning the game." The players - starting out - are targets and easy pickings for the experienced player. You know this and yet you’re trying to sell them on the idea to just keep depositing - Its all for the good of the game - what U smokin? :rolleyes: Like VinnyStrat said ... "Free Rolls are an entry level into Poker" and "Some of the players that play Only Free Rolls will move on to become more frequent Hobbyist players and deposit cash to play. Some will move on and look for another hobby. Some may just play Free Rolls forever. I don't see how it is that Free Rolls have "Hurt" poker." A2345Razz you then came back and asked ... "Who said freerolls "hurt" poker?" What! I ask you, is that not the title you placed on this thread? I am glad you have made it clear however that at least you’re not against freerolls as a marketing and social networking tools to promote the game. You go on to say ... "A CULTURE WHERE DEPOSITING is seen as the exception or in some way a loss to a beginning player....even repeated deposits....is something entirely different." Sooo … Maybe you should have named your thread - New and Everyday Fish - Please Donate Your Cash So the Pros Can Continue to Withdraw. Like johnsonrod said ... "The vast majority of the public has a inherit skepticism about poker and gambling in general. Free rolls has allowed them to see the skill involved." He goes on ... "It's a fact that most do not want to deposit until they feel they have a legitimate chance of winning something back, ..." In fairness to you A2345Razz you say ... "There isn't anything wrong with people depositing a few hundred dollars into poker as they learn and try to improve; in fact, I think the most efficient mode of learning would be to deposit after a short amount of time playing freerolls and the like and start playing the smallest stakes cash and/or tournament games." But even with this - somehow you seem so desperate when you say "deposit after a short amount of time playing freerolls" and then shout "WE NEED NEW DEPOSITORS CONSTANTLY IN ORDER FOR THE POKER ECONOMY TO WORK, PERIOD." To me you’re just saying beginners, freerollers; hobbyists; armatures must deposit 200-500 dollars to keep the game alive and healthy for the sharks. Couldn't you do the same thing by simply not withdrawing? So just exactly whose economy are we talking about here? :deal: [/QUOTE]

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