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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 5036473, member: 385063"] [b]It can get nasty[/b] What you are saying is very true. Watching Stones Live Poker on twitch one night I noticed that the real world equity, Stones Live accounts for any shown dead cards that is why it is real world equity not just an estimate, AA had vs 4 players was 33%. It was not an all in pot PRE as it was AA raise 4 callers. Try to use skill to navigate the flop turn and river in that situation:eek: Thanks for posting [/QUOTE]