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Message: [QUOTE="pat3392, post: 1534610, member: 64730"] I never thought of it like that; I'm not sure how much it is worth to me. I would rather work out how much I'm loosing then how much the experience is worth to me Give the guy a break; a lot of the very small games have no rake lol nah this isn't a brag thread There's usually about 60 players. The payout structure is rather retarded; 50% for 1st, the rest is distributed to the top 7 or so players in . So it encourages very loose play late when the blinds are large; at the final table a monster stack would be 4 M. The players are rather awful. Limp way too much/ only raise good cards preflop/ don't adjust to the blinds, still limp K6, the exception with this is when at the final table, they tighten up with 1-2M and the magic all-in number for them is 2BB instead of 10BB/ most can't fold two picture cards, vast majority have bad preflop judgement. Just hopeless players really. Sorry about going on a bit about that just I only just got back from the said tournament and the plays I seen/comments they said truly made me wonder how I ever thought they were good competition. I'm really interested in the concept of ROI; do you guys have any links to articles about it? How many games would I have to play to have a VERY rough estimate of it? Is it possible to beat a rake of 70%? EDIT: If only it was that simple to get a home game going, it's illegal over here so McDonald's is definitely a bad idea :( + people don't like playing against me, I raise too much I've been told; hell a bunch of people just an hour ago were threatening to chop of my balls and other unpleasant stuff if I kept stealing "their" blinds(very satisfying for them to finally play back at me with their K high when I had a straight) + and they were very frustrated when I made a "terrible" play and donkeyed them( folded to me, on the CO with 25o, have 3 M effective stack, one of the three scared nits called my all-in with AJs and my pair of twos busted him, always fun) I guess I could learn a more "friendly" style if I was to host home games [/QUOTE]

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