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Message: [QUOTE="Steveg1976, post: 896008, member: 29481"] Switch was making a joke. And Philber is right, in the BB you are only last to act pre-flop, you will be out of position for the rest of hand. If you limped with for instance 7s/2c in a 6 way pot from the big blind and the flop comes out 7d 2d kd. now what? you have commited up to 20% of your stack and are now out of position you can lead but with that many limpers anyone could have anything. Is two pair strong enought to bet? A reasonalbe 1/2-3/4 pot bet will almost for sure get you pot commited and a possible made flush or higher two pair or even a set. When player talk about position they talk about in reference to post flop not preflop usually (ie. late, midlle, early). Position matters most post flop. If you shove all in position is no longer a factor as there is no additional betting. I hope I didn't ramble to much... [/QUOTE]