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Message: [QUOTE="Cowboy8112, post: 898173, member: 43801"] Ok, let me say this a different way, and take the scenario out of the mix. during a tournament,or even a cash game, PREFLOP. if you are in the BB SB or on the button. and 5 or more players have called either the blind or a raise (the LIMIT for me is up to 20% or 1/5 of my chip stack it is very rarely that high) You should CALL. what your hole cards are do not matter at this point. you want to be in monster pots. if you miss the flop you fold. Now think about this people how many times are you in one of those 3 positions when this has happened? not often. any chips you loose you should be able to recoup with tighter play. but do not miss these rare but golden opportunities when they do present themselves. I hope this clears it up for everyone [/QUOTE]