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Message: [QUOTE="tenbob, post: 1894778, member: 3651"] Compound that with lots more. Playing in a live game, despite what people may say here, is completely different, you generally are more focused, less distracted, have lots more time to think through a hand. In a live game im much more likely to raise a hand like Q10o from MP, because i know the players on my left well, or fold JJ pre to a 3bet, just because im more focused. Live win rates, can be simply off the scale, to a level thats not really achievable online anymore. Online you have less time, do not know the players, are playing against stronger players by far. Remember the anyone playing 1/2 online has ground their way up through the stakes and are proven winners (apart from the odd fish, and applying the peter principe) where-as the lowest stakes live is 1/2 where you will find shot-takes/beginners/blackjack players etc etc. [/QUOTE]