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Message: [QUOTE="Poker Orifice, post: 1996213, member: 33113"] I was always a math wiz.. even as a yound kid, so I guess I'm lucky. I'd suggest working on it if it doesn't come naturally for you. I actually really enjoy working on it which is obviously a good thing. I have a question for you (a simple one)... if you're in a tournament situation, you've raised in whatever position and another player now re-raises allin (on whatever stack.. say it be 15bb's... or 20.. 24.. whatever). Aren't you interested in knowing if your call here in this spot is +ev? Don't you want to know how much equity you'd need vs. villain's range to know if calling off is a good thing or a bad thing? (just from a chip ev aspect) This is just one very, very, very small example. Personally I can't understand how one can study the game w/o getting deep'ish' into the math. [/QUOTE]