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Message: [QUOTE="ssbn743, post: 4133081, member: 72863"] Hey everyone, I’m so sick of the half-bet rule being incorrectly applied I’m just about ready to do something about it. I’ve seen it incorrectly applied in NL cash games and NL tournaments everywhere I’ve ever played – California, Colorado, Vegas, Foxwoods, Choctaw….I think that’s about it. Anyway, I typically play tournaments, and saw this just yesterday at my local casino in a daily event, but slightly less recently at the Wynn Signature event this past weekend; and in my opinion, the Wynn staff is damn good, so I’m wondering if they are actually right and I am wrong. I don’t remember specific examples, but if blinds were $1K/$2K, we’d have a player open to $4.5K and another accidentally toss in $6K in chips. The floor will subsequently be called over and will rule every single time that the $6K is more than half way to the required $7K and make the player raise to $7K. Now, I just don’t care most of the time…and I almost never say anything…however, that is the wrong ruling unless I am missing something. Per WSOP and TDA rules, the half-bet rule only applies to limit games, not no limit games with only one exception. Meaning that the accidental $6K in chips is a $4.5K call. Here it is: [INDENT][INDENT][I]Source: rule 93, WSOP rule book - [/I] [I]93. Raises: If a participant puts in a raise of 50% or more of the previous bet but less than the minimum raise, he or she will be required to make a full raise. The raise will be exactly the minimum raise allowed.[/I] [I]In no-limit and pot-limit, all raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise on that betting round. An all-in wager of less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a participant who has already acted.[/I] [I]Exception - two consecutive all-in wagers that exceed the minimum allowable bet or raise. By way of example, participant A - bets 500, participant B - raises to 1,000, participant C - calls 1,000, participant D - moves all-in for 1,300, participant E - moves all-in for 1,700. If participant A calls or folds, then participants B & C will have an option to raise. The minimum allowable raise will be equal to the last complete raise. In this example, the last complete raise was 500; therefore, participants B or C would be allowed to call 1,700 and raise 500 for a total wager of 2,200. Also, participants B or C could raise more than 500. (The half-the-size rule for reopening the betting is for limit poker only.)[/I] [/INDENT][/INDENT]Now, I have also noticed that most casinos typically state that “House/TDA rules apply”. At my local casino, I’ve noted the house rules state “half-bet rule applies to structured games”. “Structured” games? Does the term “structured” imply a poker tournament? Or, does structure mean like I take it and refer to a limit poker game? Anyway, bottom line – I’m sick to death of this idiocrasy and just want to make sure I’m not missing something before starting a war with the floor staff that will probably defend their half-bet decisions to death. Does anyone have any explanation of this issue? Do house rules dictate that the half-bet rule does indeed apply to NL cash games and NL Poker tournaments? [/QUOTE]

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