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Message: [QUOTE="Rumme1, post: 2981197, member: 182441"] Moneymaker did not win the WSOP because he was better , or more knowledgeable or had more experience then 100s of other players, he won it largely due to his GOOD luck factor at key times , when he played poorly. Yes, I admit his all in move on Farha heads up, was a great play, that ended up taking him to 1st place probably . But prior to that , he certainly was not making plays that woulda warranted him to win it all, unless the luck factor was on his side. I will also admit that the hand he had against Chan, was a case where Chan seemed to misplay his hand and Moneymaker won that hand like he shoulda , then again , Chan could got very lucky and won it, just like moneymaker did with his 88 VS AA ..all in on flop. Anyone disagree with this ? [/QUOTE]