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Message: [QUOTE="Rumme1, post: 2982375, member: 182441"] no..I did not say it was the worst play ever... I said it is one of the worst plays a person can make... calling off all your chips , drawing dead to a MAX of 2 outs...he had no winning flush draw ..he had no winning straight draw...and theres a chance, he only had 1 out { if another player folded a 8 preflop} . Furthermore, Im not saying he was a terrible player , but he surely wasnt in the top 200- 300 players for that years tourney when it comes to experience , skills, earnings, etc. Yes, he got VERY lucky...and he got that luck at the key moment that decided whether he goes bust, or moves on . Its not just about hitting the miracle card, when youve misplayed the hand badly....its about WHEN you hit the miracle card......in other words, if his bad call had only cost him 20% of his chip stack, then hitting the miracle 8, is not that important. He hit the miracle, EXACTLY when he needed to hit it..and because of that, he went on to become a millionaire and a household name. DESTINY ? PERFECT LUCK WHEN ITS NEEDED WHEN ONE MAKES THE WRONG PLAY ? SKILL ? it all plays a part. Lets also keep in mind, that if moneymaker had lost this hand, like he was statistically suppose to , he would have never made big money or become a household name that year { he would not have been plastered all over the television for the main event } AND...most players would then look at the hand differently and say what a improper mistake he truly made. The fact that he got very lucky, makes many people look at it and say, his COMPLETE play of that hand, was understandable or even acceptable. Just because he got very lucky, does not validate the way he played that hand IMHO , ..and maybe thats one reason why NL hold em, will never be a staple of my cash poker games that I use to earn a living . [/QUOTE]

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