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Message: [QUOTE="Charade You Are, post: 1736748, member: 39511"] I agree with what I think is your overall argument that logic and emotion is going to have no effect on whether we regain the ability to play poker where we want. It's going to take the casinos getting enough backing to get a law passed where they have the edge (which the DOJ just gave them by effectively shutting down the 3 biggest sites to US players). So I will never get what I want, which is my FTP back. Those are certainly reasonable. FYI my great-grandfather was a gambling addict. He never logged on to the internet, and had enough self-control to pay his bills first. The only time he lost all his money was in the stock market crash of 1929. A number of my family members are alcoholics. Most were able to stop drinking eventually, some sooner than later. The ones that stopped sooner had family that didn't enable them, made them take responsiblity for their actions (i.e. didn't bail them out of jail when they were caught DUI, didn't drive them around when they lost their license, eg). The ones that stopped much later had family that enabled them, bailed them out, hid the problem and generally felt sorry for them. So I don't think my view of addiction is naive at all. So emotional arguements only work on their side? If you think congress weighs the greater good in making their decisions, you are the one that is naive. In a country where gambling is NOT illegal, it's obvious government could care less about the "poor smuck" or his kid. It's just the argument the right uses to get the uninformed on their side. I have yet to hear anyone arguing that the old lady down the street shouldn't be allowed to spend her entire social security check on lottery tickets. You have a point there, but if the concern is actually for the gambler, then I would think that including poker with an online casino would be much more dangerous for gamblers than poker alone. I don't have numbers, but I would guess the % of gambling addicts that would play only poker is small versus the % that would play other games. Yet every attempt to legalize gambling in the US favors casinos. [/QUOTE]

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