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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 929090, member: 23910"] Gold - nice link :) Barry Greenstein is an interesting one, and is one of the players I was planning on discussing. May as well do it now. Barry is an interesting one because he doesn't really seem to practice any tell-concealing behaviours - he doesn't adopt a specific concealing pose like Ferguson does, he doesn't wear glasses or concealing clothing like Hellmuth does. He's just got one of the ultimate poker faces, and he manages to look totally passive whether he's got the nuts or is on a monumental bluff. The downside for us mere mortals is that I suspect this stems from one simple fact: Barry [I][B]is[/B][/I] Barry. Most of the televised games we see him playing are for relatively low stakes in Barry terms (the famous HSP hand where his aces get cracked by Farha's kings, for example - he doesn't bat an eyelid, and that's probably the highest we'll see him play. The WSOP $50K HORSE is less than ten big bets in his regular game). Also, he's been playing for so long that nothing much is likely to surprise him any more. That's difficult to replicate without his specific experience, although if we were to try playing in a game much smaller than we're rolled for (a 5-10c home game when we're rolled for $5-$10 casino games, for example) we might be able to apply some of it. Question is, would it improve our win rate in that lower game to the point where it'd make up for not playing in the higher game? I doubt it. FWIW I don't think Greenstein is totally without tells either - I dunno if I've seen the specific event Range is referring to above, but it wouldn't surprise me. I think he gives a bit away when he talks during a hand too, suddenly going quiet or changing the subject when he's got a hand / is interested in his hand (HSP has some examples of this, from memory), but often he's quiet the whole way through so it doesn't really apply. He's definitely one of the harder players to read, I'm just not sure how much of it we could apply to our own games. [/QUOTE]

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