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Message: [QUOTE="sKiTzo, post: 2178513, member: 89755"] Hilarious. Phil doesn't seem to understand that no matter how you slice it or dice it, poker is still gambling. You can learn the odds and try to minimize the risk, but in the end [COLOR=darkgreen]luck[/COLOR] will have the final say. There's always some idiot that goes "all in" bluffing and I'll call with my low pair of 2's. After they lose, they'll say "you called with 2's?! What a donk!". Of course, they went all in with nothing, but I"M the donk! lol Hellmuth must not enjoy super high stakes tables where maybe Dwan might be playing. I've noticed that there is quite a bit of wreckless play there. Not necessarily donk play, but just careless. That's what it seems like anyway. They have a lot of cash and it becomes a battle of big bets and bluffing. Maybe that's just Dwan - I don't know lol. Sometimes I think it's just luck that separates the pros from the novices. [/QUOTE]