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Message: [QUOTE="duggs, post: 2206281, member: 82847"] I noticed you conveniently ignored my post, let me give you an extremely simple example. you have JJ in the Big Blind. I am in the small blind, and am angry. and shove without looking at my cards. you call, i flip over KK, did you make a bad fold? no? yes? of course not, you are a 77% favourite v a 100% range and its a super easy call. another example, we are HU on the river with $2000 each and $1000 in the pot. lets also assume that im not a huge tell box and you cant tell if im bluffing or value betting, The board is QdJdTd2h2c and you believe my range is (22, TT, JJ, QQ AKdd) and you know i will bluff with exactly 97hh. you hand is AKcc is this a bad fold if I jam and you fold and i flip over 97hh? no because against my range you have a whopping 8.3% equity and you need 40% equity to make a call that is breakeven. do you see the fallacies in your logic [/QUOTE]