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Message: [QUOTE="Hsac, post: 6449209, member: 431663"] If you have four to flush draw, then you have 9 outs. How many times have you played to the river to see a fourth suited card on the board, and nobody had that suit in the showdown? I've pulled in many pots with a bluff at that point. You can't assume anything. If you have two over cards that you think might win if you hit, with the flush draw, then you have 15 outs and you're a favorite to win the hand. If you have an outside straight draw, then you have 8 outs. If you have a flush draw, a straight draw, and two over cards then you have 23 outs and are considered a huge favorite to win, though it seems I seldom do in this circumstance. That's the most outs you can ever have in hold'em. [/QUOTE]