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Message: [QUOTE="redvulture61, post: 1867976, member: 85621"] That's exactly what i was trying to convey in my post. Yes of course it would be outrageous to proclaim that i have never got it in worse and come out on top because we have all have more than a few times. However, the ratio of someone sucking out on me to me sucking out of them is much higher. I don't think what you see from Hellmuth on Tv is acting out. Poker can be a stressful game, and when everyone wants to hero call you with nothing and win it does take its toll mentally. Someone like Hellmuth or Phil ivey will never be able to win the wsop, because everyone wants to be able to have the momentum of saying i won a hand against "Phil hellmuth". [/QUOTE]