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Message: [QUOTE="Melkor, post: 794423, member: 20048"] Call the original first raise with QQ? That is pretty bad. QQ is a 3-bet like 99.9% of the time here. The idea of a tourny is to accumulate chips and this hand we push to the max and want to see an all-in. As for not being 'the nuts', it is the third best hand you can have pf, what more you wanting? And even though it is easy to get off QQ on a KAx board what if 258r had come out? You still 'spanking those ladies'. Absolutely not. The hand was played completely standard and is just unlucky. Zachvac's post is spot on with the 'expert player' thing. [/QUOTE]