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Message: [QUOTE="Vollycat, post: 1761833, member: 23635"] Disagree, sorry. I understand that you may not get paid as much post, but by the time you commit so many chips limping into random pots, you won't have enough left to do anything. If they are willing to call with garbage preflop, punish them for it--and you can't punish them with 68o from early position. You cannot play level 2 or 3 poker post flop with people who cannot see past their own cards--ESPECIALLY live. They've waited to long to finally get the pretty KTo and they ride it to the end. Plus if you do whiff with your AKs and they continue to call, the cr off the flop, shut down. It's about the long run of the game. This is a dream table when you have chips. When you piss away half your stack trying to call and limp, you'll be useless when the blinds get big. [/QUOTE]