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Message: [QUOTE="Chemist, post: 1686594, member: 55995"] nc_royals you started a very reasonable thread for discussion, In the case of those who do not understand Plato's Cave it is probably not worth trying to explain. But it would be more polite if superior typists were to allow superior thinkers the space to think and discuss. Different opinions may be considered before being rejected, with a well stated explanation, with a preference for quality rather than quantity. Quote from the original post: 'when you realize youre in a downswing' Clearly this is an important first step to realize this. Without realization and counter action it will just worsen the situation. There are actually several other threads in cardschat relating to variance and tilt which discuss possible reasons for it such as personal circumstances affecting concentration. Unfortunately there are no scientific or logical explanations for 'running hot' and I don't think we want to get in to cosmic or supernatural discussions here, (which I probably should point out I have no personal beliefs in), although I do recognise and accept the term. So returning to the original question: 'My question is this when you realize youre in a downswing... Do you change your games and move down in levels or do you continue to grind it out at the stakes you are'. [B]If you have recognised there is a problem, then it would be sensible to make adjustments that will firstly minimise the damage and secondly aid recovery.[/B] Actually this is already covered in Bank Roll Management. If the bankroll gets reduced, then to maintain the correct percentages to play at would require stepping down a level. However that is a bit late to be reacting if a more positive approach can be taken. I actually have a theory of my own that in addition to BRM a bit of Luck Management can be beneficial. The theory has already been not understood and scorned by the cave dwellers in this thread here: [url]https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/building-a-baby-bankroll-181238/post-1596078.html[/url] But basically it agrees with the original posted proposal to change your games and move down in levels when you realize you're in a downswing. jazzaxe makes a good point: 'If you lose 4 buy-ins and you move down a level it is going to take twice as long to get back up to your present level since you would have to win 8 buyins at the lower level to even yourself'. Of course true gamblers move up the levels to try and recoup their losses early, inevitably leading to total ruin. Clearly though you only intend to play at the lower levels until you can recognise that whatever it was that was causing the bad streak has passed and then move back to the previous level to start recouping the losses and hopefully return to winning ways. Of course it should also be remembered when changing levels that different levels also have different types of play and players. So in conclusion, Yes, if you recognise something is not working, do something about it. [/QUOTE]

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