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Message: [QUOTE="Irexes, post: 877291, member: 13873"] To answer the OP... If you are talking OPR then look at their distribution of finishes. It should be heavily skewed towards the end. An ITM of 15% or greater and lots of final tables. All dependant on field size of course how many FTs they'll make. The money won can be very misleading with a lucky result skewing a bad player into profit or a good player being negative ROI% for a decent sample. Speaking of which if they've got less than 50 recorded then it's very hard to tell much unless there's a really clear pattern and less than 100 is still not much evidence. Generally though the OPR rankings for the year seem to do a pretty good job of sorting things out and taking account of all the variables. They keep exactly how they do it a secret but you won't find many donks near the top or good players near the bottom. [/QUOTE]