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[QUOTE="Vollycat, post: 918666, member: 23635"]
Don't know if I agree with ya Chuck. There is a LOT to tourny skill, and there are a number of players that live on tourny wins.
 
However, I think ring games are going to be a much bigger 'grind', and therefore seems like the ring game players play more hands/see more cards then the tourny player.
 
I guess I can agree that with ring there seems to be a slightly less luck factor because given enough hands played, the cream will rise and the better players show profit. With tourny play there are a few much more simple techniques to use that can be learned at a much quicker rate then a good ring player (i.e. Kill Phil), but to say that tourny's have less skill involved may be a little too much for me. Like you said, imo. :)
 
But I agree completely that a guy making $4K a month in rake, and only living off of just that, is full of BS.  If you are a losing player and playing enough to make $4k in rake, you're losing your ass.  He's full of it.
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