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Message: [QUOTE="CryingAmy, post: 1193596, member: 45396"] Great thread- like the tangents!! There are many people who are 'pro' and make good money from poker whether live or online, but there are also many others to struggle to grind away and then many who lose/ fail to make enough to make a living (there's a great series on youtube about 'pro' poker players and what a bunch of degenerates they are, continually going bust and struggling to make a living- search for them as well worth watching!). Great debate about the amount needed to make a living- it depends on circumstances and location as people have said and the comment about moving to S. Asia is spot on (Africa, parts of the middle east and South America also options?) I tried to play freerolls and small buyins for a living for approx 3-4 months, but living in London meant it was almost impossible (just about managed to pay the rent, but used savings for everyday expenses) I do have 4 'friends' (2 good friends) who tried it seriously - one guy won a big tournament ($50k?) and decided to turn pro- lost almost all winnings in 8 months and gave up. - another guy again won a lot in a tournament ($30k) and did the same- he made a decent living for a year or so, but got bored/ fed up with grinding and realised could make more with a job. - one guy (good friend) made a living playing heads up large stakes at UB for 18months- easily made enough to live in London, (whilst running a software company that wasnt really profitable) but he's very clever and went back to IT for a big bank where he could and does make much more. - another good friend has just started playing and is finding it a bit of a struggle, but too early to tell... So even those who can make a living often chose not to because of the unsociable hours/ better opportunities out there. Personally I make a bit of extra cash and am happy doing that- if I can one day go deep in a big event (after satelliting in!) then I would be tempted to give it a go, (grinding multiple tables every day wouldnt be my idea of fun), but even a $50k win/ bankroll wouldnt be enough to try imho ($200k maybe)- the big money is in live tournaments/ big online tournaments so this is the only way I would do it (moving up cash limits sounds good, but at some point you're bound to come a cropper?) multiple $10 (or higher) sngs would be the best way of grinding I suppose if you were prepared to do it. [/QUOTE]

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