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Message: [QUOTE="roundcat, post: 1454615, member: 7011"] This is really bugging me. OK, let's say 80% of hands that don't go to showdown are won by players holding the best hand. I think that's a reasonable percentage. So it could be argued that winning without showdown is 80% luck (for simplicity's sake, this assumes the players are playing their hands in a standard way). Luck would then account for 60.56% of all wins, and adding to that the 12% luck percentage cited above would = 72.56% luck. Roughly 27% skill vs. 73% luck is still a huge skill factor. While it doesn't support an argument that poker is "mostly" based on skill, it creates a wide gap between poker and most gambling games, which are often 100% luck and 0% skill. The 88% figure is just ridiculous. Was this study performed by people who actually play poker? [/QUOTE]