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Message: [QUOTE="dj11, post: 1455044, member: 13851"] So, taken at face value, we all need to determine just what those elements of poker skill are. Tis why we join forums right? And if we concentrate on how we can convince our opponents to fold, we will accomplish that task. Live table can't count here because there are poker faces to deal with. I for one think mine sucks...tis too pretty and expressive.;) Online we have few tools. The raise and continuous pressure are the big ones. Sneakiness is another. Intimidation. Many will say position, but from my read of the results, it is not necessary to worry so much about position if you 'overagress' the rest of the table. Playing the right stakes might be an important tool, for we all know that the micros can't count for much either. I have long thought that I am not bankrolled for the games I could probably do very well in. It is important to understand that that study DID NOT deal with tourney's. It dealt with ring only. [/QUOTE]