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Message: [QUOTE="dj11, post: 632490, member: 13851"] As for this guff! Ha! There can be no such thing as randomness. Even in the big bang theory, random was not perfect, came close, but not perfect. Those imperfections lead over time to the formation of clumps, systems of clumps, and galaxies. If there is no variation of randomness (patterns) then there will only and always be only one play in poker. Determine the average winning hand, which I figure to be a pair of 9's or tens, and play any hand better than that, or that has the potential to be better than that. Actually I figure the average winning hand is about a pair and a half, which does not equate to 3 of a kind. You should trust me, I am the resident, self appointed flopologist!;) [/QUOTE]