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Message: [QUOTE="BelgoSuisse, post: 783295, member: 30299"] If he starts shoving everything, you have to do the same from sb while you still have your strong lead instead of waiting to be close to even. That buys you time to pick a spot where you choose to call his shove. If you want to call his shove from BB when you are ahead of ATC, that means any pair, any A, any K, Q5+, J8+, T9. If you want to wait until you are 60% farorite or more against ATC, then it's A7s+, A9o+, KJo+, K9s+, QJs, 44+. But's that's less than 15% of your cards, and it means you may have to wait a bit too long before you get one of those. I'm pretty sure it must be possible to determine what is the optimal calling range here depending on stack sizes and on the opponent's calling range, but that's a bit beyond my current game theory knowledge. [/QUOTE]