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Message: [QUOTE="momoney2, post: 748611, member: 31250"] You are right. Even pocket AA's will only win 30% - 35% of the time against 4 or 5 callers. So yes, if you are up against a group of loose donkey players that will call raises, then yes in multi-way pots they will sometimes win. You are the favorite against each individual hand, but as a whole, your opponents are the favorite. Having said all that, you only have to have your good hands stand up once or twice against a group of loose players and you will have 3x - 4x your starting chips. Then you can roll from there. Let the donkeys be donkeys. Don't tap the tank, you'll scare all the fish. And other phrases like that. We want the crappy players to continue to play crappy. If they only play solid poker, it is going to be much more difficult to get their chips. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]