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Message: [QUOTE="MediaBLITZ, post: 1844008, member: 77190"] Our different view on this seems to be totally about our presupposition about how this would be handled by the floor. I am convinced there was a call and I am convinced that if the floor is called the fact the villain has turned his cards up has [B]99%[/B] influence on that decision. I base that on seeing over and over in the rules, if you 'blah blah blah' [B]"causing another player to act behind you"[/B] then (and the "then" never turns out well for the person who induced the action). I could be wrong but that's the basis of my opinion. Totally understand what you're saying and if you're right about zero influence on a ruling then I would agree. [/QUOTE]