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[QUOTE="zachvac, post: 1067574, member: 26306"]
Do you understand the concept of ranges? Do you realize that Ivey may have had the top of his range when he called it off? Do you realize how aggro Ivey is and how wide his bluffing range is?
 
Well here's why no one talks about Ziig: [url]http://www.pokertableratings.com/overview/ziigmund[/url]

Almost -1 million lifetime. Most guys who lose at poker don't get talked about.

And Benyamine although a winner is winning at 2.05 PTBB/100 compared with Dwan's 7.14. Basically people talk about him because long-term he's crushing the game for more than anyone else. Even Ivey has a lower winrate despite playing a lot less hands, although Ivey's crushing the game as well for over 6 PTBB/100.
 
That's irrelevant. Is 20 years for Doyle enough to say he's winning? If it is than this time online for Dwan should be plenty because he's played more hands.
 
umm read what I wrote, it wasn't even comparing him with Doyle, it was comparing sample size. If Doyle has a big enough sample size than so does Dwan. Dwan's hands are against the newer better players, so it's not like Barry vs. 50s players, he's been playing guys like Ivey, Benyamine, Hansen, Galfond.

lol you watch it? Hellmuth acted like the child. He got coolered, oh no. And he throws his tantrum. Hellmuth acted younger than Dwan was.
 
No he wanted to play Hellmuth HU. Hellmuth subsequently said that actually Dwan had to pay him a ton of money just to play him. If it had actually happened I'm sure Dwan woulda cleaned him out.
 
Yeah he was pretty amazing, what's your point?
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