I realized something today..

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  • #26
I realized something today...

boro,

My father taught me something a long time ago. Give out but NEVER give up. I play only on Full Tilt and have never made a deposit. I have been playing for about 3 years. I currently stand about $330 in my bankroll and my stats do not like have as good as yours. I do not keep the detail but I have an excell spreadsheet which sattisfies me.

Man, if you enjoy the game keep it up. Do what makes your heart happy.:icon_sunn
 
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I think more than a few players realize that they're not making money fast enough, move up in stakes, and subsequently crash and burn because of being not properly rolled. After a while you, or at least I, just can't take it seriously after making a few dollars and realizing it has lost all of it's thrill and is no longer fun, not to mention it has become a thankless job where you're making sweat shop wages.
 
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  • #28
Yeah playing low limits won't get you anywhere. I play $200 or $300 live game and would never play for hours to get 5 bucks. So wut level does online start to get serious.
 
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Thanks for your Tips, chuck ! But I have some questions:

ChuckTs said:
-Steal WAYYY more. This is going to be the bulk of your profit. Seriously. Open upwards of %50 of hands on the button (mess with pokerstove if you're unsure what hands that makes up). I'll even open %100 (yes, EVERY hand) if the blinds are tight.

Opening up in late position will raise your PFR and shrink the gap between it and your vpip (the gap should be relatively small; right now it's huge).

Ok, but often times i do have to put the cbet into calculation after i was called. If it is folded to my button I already try to steal with a relatively wide range. I mostly raise to .15 at a tight table. If I get called and the flop is checked to me I cbet around .20.

What I need to work on is when there are several limpers before me and Im on the button. With what Range should I go for it and how much the raise (1BB for every limper), also in regards of a cbet, to make this profitable ?

-Stop defending your BB vs steals so often. You should stick to your monsters, pocket pairs, and strong hands like AJs, AQ, KQ. Drop the JT and 89s, they're just not profitable out of position.

See this is one of my problems, pretty similar to the SB. People so often minraise to .10 cent, if there are like 3-4 callers I think I can call with almost anything and its profitable. I have the same problem in SB, Its only 3 cents into e.g. an .20 pot, and if I flop right there is a lot to make (i guess?). So am I totally wrong here ?

-Tighten up vs people's preflop raises in general preflop. Think about what range they're opening, and only continue with hands that are clearly ahead of that range. ie if you think someone will open AJ+/pairs in early position, don't call his raise with AJ or worse.

This is the art that needs to be worked out. But at these levels, most people in EP think even QJ would be the nutz. I definitely reduced my caling range on the dominated hands here, but with AJ in position it is sometimes tempting.

I have also noticed, thet preflop people almost always limp call like a 3-4 BB raise. Same goes with a reraise after the flop or turn, if they bet out like .15 and i reraise to .35 they most likely call and check the next street to me. I think this is where value is made, because most of the time they fold to a big bet after the check.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Boro
 
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  • #30
PattyR said:
very nice stats compared to the first one you posted man..you lowered your VPIP by like 12.

im a steady grinder as you appear to be..recently i just moved up to 10NL ..only difference between this and 5NL is the extra added pot sizes. the swings can be huge and the key is to not tilt which you also appear to be doing good by not tilting..friday my BR was at $420...yesterday i went on a HUGGE downswing and the BR hit $320...disgusted with myself i shut down fulltilt only to play today..built it up to $390 today only to blow $50 on one hand (Full house vs better Full House) and it wasn bad BRM..i started to table with $10 and grew it to $50 within a couple hours. so now the BR is back around ~$350.

keep grinding bro, it will get better

Thx man. The Swings and the tilting is just as you say. In my case I wouldnt call it tilt as I have explained above, but I get annoyed, really really annoyed ;) Btw, I leave the table after a double up or even less. I know I can win more with a bigger stack, but the tilt would be worse and some plays can freak me out ..

Yet my next step will be playing with a full stack INSTEAD of moving up in limits !
 
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  • #31
@ lupefan and all others

I surely will purchase PT3, have the trial already running as it is now available for apple macintosh ! And Im here on cardschat because I want to work on my game.

I started this thread out of a bad and annoying streak. And I think I forgot that I have to measure my winnings in BB/100 and that this cant be too much as a sum at 5NL.

But it is definitely not the amount, I grind for 5$ and dont care. But when a bad streak comes and I get beat after beat I also freak out for those 5$. As I said, I could easily deposit and move up, but I see myself still in a learning phase.

wsorbust said:
I think more than a few players realize that they're not making money fast enough, move up in stakes, and subsequently crash and burn because of being not properly rolled. After a while you, or at least I, just can't take it seriously after making a few dollars and realizing it has lost all of it's thrill and is no longer fun, not to mention it has become a thankless job where you're making sweat shop wages.

Yes, true. But I still take it seriously and Im working to overcome this point.

And yes, I enjoy poker. Its a brutal game.
 
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  • #32
I guess this thread is over.

Learned that I have to stick to my BB/100 at 5NL, although it is still improvable, along with the stats.

Thx all :)
 
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  • #33
I as others follow your posts and soak up much of what you post. Very interesting :)
 
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  • #34
You have to be reasonable, then you have to be good and then you need to be the luckiest one in the pot. I think I am reasonable now :)
 
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