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Can I shove in this situation or not?
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[QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 3801085, member: 23910"] This action makes no sense... or at the very least you've missed out some important steps: You're in Seat 2 in the BB. Seat 4 raises to $5, Seat 6 shoves for $12, I assume everyone else in between folds, you call the $12... then Seat 3 (who's UTG [b]between[/b] you and Seat 4) shoves for $20? You didn't mention Seat 3 earlier, did they just limp in when they first acted? And what did Seat 4 do after Seat 3 shoved? I'm assuming Seat 3 limped in initially, that Seat 4 (who I also assume is the player that still has money behind) just called Seat 3's subsequent push, and that any other player who's not mentioned folded at first opportunity. Under normal rules yes, you should be allowed to shove. Seat 6 raised by $7, and then Seat 3's push raised by $8. That's a valid raise that [i]should[/i] reopen the betting to you. But not all poker rooms use the same rule set, which brings us to... I hate this version of the rule. That said, it [i]is[/i] a rule I've seen/heard used in some rooms - mostly bar leagues and the like, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was in use elsewhere too. If the floor is adamant that you can't raise in this spot, then this is the most likely explanation for it. It's a bad rule (I'm pretty sure it only exists in places where they think the players/dealers aren't smart enough to calculate the size of a raise, so they use the full bet size instead), but it may well be the one they use. [/QUOTE]
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