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Message: [QUOTE="Rumme1, post: 2980661, member: 182441"] winning a tourney , is not indicative of a player being a great player. Chris moneymaker won , not because he was the best player..or even a above average player { IMHO} ...he won because of 1 or more very lucky hands , when he put all his chips in, WAY behind..and hit a miracle card . The one hand he did this is, was when he had a weak underpair...vs AA ...and the flop came rags....and the opponent put moneymaker all in ...and moneymaker CALLED..and even said " I know im in bad shape" and guess what..moneymaker hit 1 of his only 2 outs...and he doubled up, when he shoulda went broke and not even made the final table. THIS IS THE LUCK OF NL HOLD EM..ESPECIALLY IN TOURNEY PLAY. [/QUOTE]