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Message: [QUOTE="detroitjunkie, post: 3148669, member: 61462"] ok, home now and on computer there are several rules that come into play here upon mucking this rule applies: 2. Cards thrown into the muck may be ruled dead. However, a hand that is clearly identifiable may be retrieved and ruled live at management’s discretion if doing so is in the best interest of the game. An extra effort should be made to rule a hand retrievable if it was folded as a [B]result of incorrect information given to the player.[/B] now, there still may be more rules at play here but we do not have the information: 1. If one of the players were all in, then both hands MUST be tabled no matter what happens, every effort must be made to retrieve the mucked hand. 2. If opponent, when showing the jacks, also showed his other 3 cards, then he must win. In no way can a dealer muck an obvious winning tabled hand, and his hand was tabled, just early (maybe) which is insignificant. I am not sure in the way you described it that opponent showed with action pending, what was the action that was pending? In my opinion this was the correct ruling and is how I would rule it in my poker room: cards are clearly identifiable, they were shown, and player was given improper information, and a player may have been all in. Sorry this is not what you want to hear...its the fairest thing to do and is best interest of the game. Your buddy made a HUGE mistake by saying anything, since a new rule in 2016 the WSOP no longer demands a hand to be shown to win a pot if it is the only live hand remaining, he should have just said nothing and taken the pot (but it is an angle by giving wrong information, which if I was him I would have said I didnt win and let the guy have the pot, but I am an honest player because I am also a floor). Your buddy could also have been penalized for this. [/QUOTE]

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