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[QUOTE="ssbn743, post: 3150559, member: 72863"]
Hmmm – Interesting

First, a pair of Jacks against a player that drew one card is an obvious, 99% of the time loser.  So, he showed the Jacks in frustration and then “Yeah, I muck!”  Now I understand what you’re saying – but does that mean that if Sam hadn’t said a single word, first to act mucks out of turn, Sam turns over his 5th card and says, “We’ll I thought I had you crushed but I guess not!” – Sam would be awarded the pot?

What if he had verbalized “Fold” and the same action ensued?  Folding is technically not an option for him as he has to check or bet – so even with a verbal declaration; are we in the same place?

I just think that this is where common sense and floor discretion comes into play – false information or not, the guy folded – and he was the one that started the bad info chain, and broke a few rules himself, to begin with.

Frankly I think it’s far more of an angle, than anything Sam could have been up to, to show your hand and ask your opponent if it’s good or not.

Yeah, I would have just mucked them face down myself – I probably would have never even looked at my 5th card.  There are a few things Sam could have done differently, but…

Neither one cashed this satty – Sam did last year, did fairly well, in the $10K, for a while at least, and then Danny Negreanu got seated to his left – turns out Danny is better (especially at Kansas low) than my buddy Sam! :)
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