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Message: [QUOTE="jdeliverer, post: 1228300, member: 38411"] I call to punish the fool who shoved with 26 big blinds. O_O Seriously, what were you thinking? that's not really small ball, but still a valid move, not to be misunderestimated. edit: To make my post vaguely constructive, have you heard of ICM? There's a lot of information online about it, you should look it up if you haven't heard of it. Basically it involves converting players stack sizes into equity in the prize pool. Sometimes decisions that are +EV in terms of chips are -EV in terms of actual money (in the form of payouts). [/QUOTE]