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[QUOTE="N.D., post: 820954, member: 30036"]
Well?  I mean what if you raised pre-flop with a very strong hand.  Something in the good to premium starting hand category.  Say AA or A/K suited, or even J/10 suited, or 10/10...

So you make your late position raise and someone from middle position calls.  The board's all baby cards and they bet but for whatever reason, you think they're trying to steal.  I mean it's a full table in a tournament or cash game and there's no good reason to call a sizable raise with a baby pair.  But lo and behold they flopped their set, only you don't realize it until the turn or river when you suck out on them with a str8, set, or flush(you get the idea).

See, I get that it's a bad beat in terms of percentages, but in terms of good play, and knowing that I would fold a baby pair to a raise crazy-fast pre-flop, I'm not so sure it is a bad beat.  I think it's one of those hands where normally you would fold that baby pair, or baby connectors, or whatever cards you know would normally be counterfeited and you feel good because even though you would have won that one time, you know that in the long run those cards will cost you money.

I'm welcoming opposing views.  I'm just thinking that although technically it's a bad beat, it's kind of not one, because the person raising indicated a stronger starting hand than a baby pair or some such.
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