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Message: [QUOTE="topp44, post: 365326, member: 8349"] I dont think you people give enough credit to the people playing 2c and 4c games. These players rarley deposit there own money and are playing freerole wins (like i). You people say that the players in the freerolls dont play well enough, but they do! If you think about whats happening then youl know that. I guess you dont like having kk, putting in the correct size raise and then being beaten by a2. even though you raised enough to make the a2 call not worth it. (i do it all the time) But it happens in $100stt's $5/$10 limit and loads in $10 multi tables. It happens loads. Its not becuase they are rubbish players. They havnt called with a2 for no reason! Theyre mtt strategy might hinge around getting a couple of loose (so called lucky) double ups at the start. Then they have 3x the starting stack, so theyle hang on for 45mins untill the blinds become 1/10th the starting stack, then theyle use there loose double ups to capitalise on the blinds and make it difficult for you. Your still sitting waiting and you hit an jj but they reraise you. (IN ANY NORMAL GAME YOU WOULD FOLD SHITTY JJ- your making the rubbish call) but you call and they show aq. they hit the queen, and you lose, but they arnt the one who was was making the rubbish call or raise. there stack is 4x yours but the chances of you winning is only 55% ie- they will win one out of two in one given mtt tourney around 45mins into the tourney. If they loose to you, then they they still have 3000 and youve doubled up to 2000. Then 15mins later they play exactley the same hand and hit it... they are up to 6000. Then you take another shot at your 55/45%, so you hit, your only at 4000, and your due to loose the next 55/45% and go all out becuase youv not got enough chips to be able to afford to lose. Its all about their strategy. Lets take it over 3 $10mmt's out of 100 people which is a $1000 prizepool. First to ten get payed at least 3x the buy in. That means that you only have to get in the top 10% 1/3 of the time. Personally, i know that if i wait for the cards, and only play the cards i get and use all the blatent steals. (no risks) then i will only get payed about 1/5 times, and if i do il be around 9th or 8th. Whereas, if i start all those and play it looser (playing a2, k4 etc) when i can get away with it then il lose 2ov them in the first ten players. But in the third one il be at about 5k whilst the avg is 1.5k at this point i can put pressure on players, take blinds, and afford to miss a 45/55% before i hit another one. When i get into that position them im almost guaranteed topp10 and that pays my 1/3. Chances are il get topp5, and thats where the profit comes from. +... i havnt wasted 2hours each in the other two only to finish 15th or 20th. Does this make sence? feel free to argue sorry about the typos [/QUOTE]

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