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Message: [QUOTE="fiddy1, post: 1624351, member: 35303"] ok so you hit on interesting points that ive been pondering - so we know AA & KK are no good against donks, they will play not only any 2 cards but any connectors or suits So ok a big preflop raise with AA doesnt chase them away (see below) , we are gonna wait for big hands - like flushes, straights, boats ? Well how often do these come ? OK so we establish we have to be more aggressive and make more plays against these types because otherwise we will nit our way, waiting for those premium hands - alright how many times have u made a play and its called down anyway and u hemorrhage chips ... for me thats a hell of a lot lately. Lets be honest - how many hands against a player online do u need to see to get even a remotely close read on his hand or range ? A crap load i would say because come on - not even they know what they're doing ! :) Again i'll reiterate its not the donks i dont like - i love them - the truly mindless players i will chase if they even leave the table ... lol I guess my point is that I'm feeling like the number of bad beats and suckouts against donk plays are just too overwhelming to make a consistent return from the online game unless as some have said, i guess the volume of hands is astranomical and the bankroll can withstand the drawdown from really poor runs -which ive just experienced. As a side note i just lost another stack 2 hrs ago holding AA after i MASSIVELY raised preflop to get 1 caller eventually show me KT suited and hit his set on the turn (and full boat on river) .. i mean how many of those can a player take ? Thx for listening ... been a real brutal week [/QUOTE]

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