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Message: [QUOTE="LukeSilver, post: 5658374, member: 59099"] I think poker orrifice has answered most of your reply for me but still thought I would respond. by pro I mean been able to make a living of the game. I think your getting confused because when people think of pro athletes they are thinking of world class athletes. I do not consider I need to be a world class poker player in order to be a pro poker player. All i need from that is to be able to pay my rent taxes bills food and leisure activities. Currently I make £10 per hour from my day job. one could say that in order to be match this at poker I need to make more than £10 an hour but lets break that down. I travel an hour to work and an hour back so my day consists of 10 hours of my day been lost for 7 and a half hours paid work so am I been paid £10 an hour or £7.50? of course all that is a moot point because I have to pay tax. since I earn a low income and work four days a week my tax is on the low side but it still adds up. 8.6% tax so my £75 a day after tax is £68.55 now dividing by ten for time lost of the day and I am now making £6.85 an hour. of course this is all based on that a friend gives me a lift in everyday and refuses to take petrol money if they did not do this I would need to spend £56 a month on the bus. that suddenly means that 13% of my wage is been lost on the bus and taxes. plus the bus takes longer so that adds another hour so now I have an 11 hour day of my time used instead of ten. All that been considered I apparently make £5.93 an hour. for the record after taxes my wage from work is £1187 so to be in an equal situation i need to make £39.57 a day call it £40. £40 per day is £280 a week so a 40 hour week I would need to make £7 an hour. The reason i do 4 days a week is for my studies as I do an open uni degree part time and I need time to do that. but if I save the time on travel instead of working 30 hours a week i could work 40 hours a week and be in exactly the same spot as I would if I had worked 30 hours a week. long story short if I quit my job for poker I need to be able to make £7 an hour from poker, to be exactly in the same spot financially as I am working. However people seem to be missing something that I have said multiple times throughout this thread and in other places. so sorry I will put it in block capitals to be clear. I DO NOT WANT TO RISK QUITTING MY JOB FOR POKER I ONLY PLAN TO DO THIS IF THE CORONAVIRUS SPREADS AT A MUCH FASTER RATE AND IT BECOMES CLEAR I AM SIGNIFICANLY ENDANGERING MINE AND MY GIRLFRIENDS LIFE BY DOING SO. OR IF MY INCOME FROM POKER EXCEEDS TWICE MY HOURLY WAGE IN THIS CASE I WOULD NEED TO MAKE CLOSE TO £14 AN HOUR. now onto another point my game focuses on 30 blinds or less poker I have been a tournament poker play/sit and go poker player my entire time playing poker. whilst I have thought about branching out and experimenting with learning cash game poker I do not intend to do so any time soon. I am on the autistic spectrum thats not relevant to much except life poker i am not good at reading people and give of tells i do not realize. at small stakes cash or small stakes live tournaments this is not an issue as people are rarely astute enough to spot and realize exactly what my tells mean the odd person is but its rare and not enough to impact. generally a rule in poker is the higher the stakes the better the calibre of player. This of course is not a cast in stone rule you can probably find players at $2 NLH cash who are better then some of the players at $5000 NHL fish exist at all stakes. However I doubt even the strongest regs at $2 NHL would be profitable at $5000 NLH. I do not know exactly what you mean by high rollers but assume you mean high stakes players. generally the smallest stakes I have seen life was 25/50 p blinds so £50 NLH most casinos offer either some form of 50p/£1 blinds or £1/£1 blinds £100 NLH or £1/2 NLH. i think mid stakes would be at least £5/10 £1000 NLH or £10/£25£2500 NLH. for high stakes I would assume we mean at least £50/£100 blind levels so £10000 NLH. When i am considering playing poker for a living to avoid the coronavirus pandemic your advise is i go and play live poker, for which I have many weakness that do not exist for me in online poker, further this also exposes me to the coronavirus much more since we are constantly exchanging chips and sitting close to each other. Further you recommend I do this against what is likely some of the best calibre of poker players around in a game format that I am not trained/competent in. I do not have £10000 spare so would have to stake my entire bankroll to buyin. and of course the variance in a single session or two in poker cash games will be very large so even if i did win here this would proof nothing. Short of deciding to stab myself with a sharp blade everytime I win a pot I cannot really think of anything more stupid and illogical for my current situation. [/QUOTE]

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