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Message: [QUOTE="steffdbird, post: 2313442, member: 102436"] [b]lol[/b] Firstly sorry for another off topic rant!! where did you learn history???? In both ww1 and ww2 america preferred to not be involved but supported there allies by [B]selling us weapons and food[/B] which was so lucrative to the usa, The uk spent 50 years paying off these debts, which of coarse we needed to fund our war campaign and to revive our country after the campaign which we could never thank the usa enough for the lend-lease deals we received which is why our counties are so close :) America which you sayed and I quote ''made incredible sacrifices in WWII to ensure that Europe should be free'' [B]only [/B]joined 2 years into the war, the war started when us brits declared war against germany on september the 1st 1939 and america joined on December 8th, 1941 and the only main reason for americas 2cent input was because japan bombed us naval base ''pearl harbour'' on the 7th of December 1941. Yes america made [B]a[/B] contribution but not a ''incredible sacrifice'' there is always speculation on the what and who's but the facts are there for all to read :) So please learn a little more about the subjects you intend on making big claims about I'm shocked your from the uk and are so ill informed on history !! And as for the usa discrediting the russians don't you see what russia and china are doing? backing these evil countries and all just (Imo) to go against the uk and usa. for instance look at the syrian troubles where that evil man gassed his own people most of which were young children and women, and the uk an us were going to intervene and what happened [B]russia [/B]stepped in and defended this barbaric misuse of chemical weapons and urged us to not get involved. there is a line on how far we can be pushed around and with russia now engaging in what has been described as a '' total war invasion'' we have every right to exercise our rights to sanction the russians as they had done to us durin the syrian troubles :) [/QUOTE]

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