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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 972565, member: 23910"] I can't see how you can make [B]any[/B] judgement without at least the following minimum information: - Tournament or cash game - Villain tendencies - Blind and stack sizes As to the argument for raising bigger with KK to drive out ace-rag hands... sure, you could do that. But surely what we should actually be looking for is to find the price that ace-rag is [I]willing[/I] to call at. More often than not an ace won't flop, and you'll take it down. Or even better, they miss their ace but hit their kicker and ship you loads of moneyz. Bet so much that nobody can call you preflop, on the other hand, and you lose loads and loads of value. Premium pairs don't come around very often, are you really gonna be satisfied with only winning the blinds each time? [/QUOTE]