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Message: [QUOTE="bounce 2018, post: 1686950, member: 72292"] I didn't want to show exact hands for this thread. I only mentioned the one hand because its what made me really look inside me and see what I did wrong there. As far as huds go, I have used the trial versions of both HEM and PT3. They did help out some with me but I never really got to use there full potential in that short amount of time. I do see how they benefit players online and I will subscribe to one eventually and learn all the nuances. Which do you prefer? I thought about getting HEM just because of the Leakbuster you can add on. If you keep notes on players do you write down there range from each position? Thanks again [/QUOTE]